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Atlas || M&M BOT 3/26/2023 6:22 PM
Yes, but you’re still connected, you still understand them on a far more intimate level than you would with a lot of external relationships.
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Well I mean you do share all your memories
6:22 PM
They know alot
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At first eishi didn't share all my memories but then i sorta "allowed" him to explore them so Well he definitely did share some but he wasn't aware of a lot of them
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So ur saying if I wanted to I could have stopped benn from seeing all my memories..
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I think it's the same thing with how talking to AI or chat-gpt doesn't fill the need for socialisation, even though it is advanced and can mimic human expression pretty accurately.
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KIZO!
So ur saying if I wanted to I could have stopped benn from seeing all my memories..
Idk maybe it depends on the person It's almost like he was developed from my memories but had a separate set of his own memories that came from somewhere else And he couldn't "remember" my memories until i opened them up to him
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Atlas || M&M BOT 3/26/2023 6:30 PM
You shouldn't try to do that, though
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I also did follow the wikihow guide which assumes that they don't share your memories until you open up to them so. Maybe that made a difference?
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Atlas || M&M BOT 3/26/2023 6:30 PM
Sounds like a recipe for trust issues.
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The wikihow guide said to wait until we had trust to open up but It very well could be wrong, i've heard bad things about that guide lol
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I assumed that he's had my memoires
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Then that would be why he does
6:32 PM
I suppose it depends on how you feel things will work
6:33 PM
For me eishi can check out my memories whenever he wants, and i can show him memories if we want But he can't access them the same way he accesses his own memories ig?
6:34 PM
I hope that way of working doesn't give trust issues though I didn't intentionally do it, i just went into tulpamancy thinking that was how it worked and it turned out to work that way
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i keep having trouble with communicating with my tulpa what should i do?
8:07 PM
and my visualisation stuff isnt really that good either
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i keep having trouble with communicating with my tulpa what should i do?
trouble how?
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She just doesn’t speak at all really
9:47 PM
Well she has
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Abit
9:47 PM
But not a lot at all plus the times she has spoken I think it’s me kinda
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If you're not doing it deliberately, it's probably not you
9:52 PM
Try to just continue speaking to her She'll become more vocal with time
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and my visualisation stuff isnt really that good either
I never had trouble with visualization so i can't comment on that but you can check out the visualization section of the approved guides I think mostly just practice helps
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KIZO!
I assumed that he's had my memoires
Your assumption made it correct
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KIZO!
I assumed that he's had my memoires
At the end of the day "it's all in your head". Mel never got access to my memories and chess didn't early on, but a lot of this is belief and expectations. Back in the day the expectation was that the tulpa would be ignorant to your memories until you've made a conscious choice to give them that access or they were active enough to figure it out on their own.
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i wish that were the case for us
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Luminesce: I don't see why, I can't imagine living in the same head as someone else but wanting to hide your memories from them. (edited)
12:16 PM
  • Well, I won't comment past that because I don't want to be mean
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Well No it's Not that we wanted to hide memories
12:20 PM
It was that idk
12:20 PM
Sentimental value of it ig
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I’m having so much trouble communicating with my tulpa idk what I’m doing wrong, nothing is working
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Does she not respond when you talk to her?
4:11 PM
no responses
4:11 PM
and if there is its me
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Are you sure it's you?
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pretty sure
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Hm I can think of two things you could do Just keep talking to her, and be patient. She will respond at some point. You could also try the pendulum method. That involves purchasing a pendulum, and using it pretty much the same way you would in a spiritual practice. But instead of asking the gods or the spirits, ask valentine a question. Valentine will send your subconscious a response, and your subtle movements will tell you the answer.
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How much does a pendulum cost?
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On aliexpress they cost around 3 bucks You can also buy them at spiritual shops. At one of them in my city they cost 12 dollars, and at another they cost 15-30 dollars.
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Okay ty!
4:22 PM
I’ll probably get a cheap one for now
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That's fair You don't need an expensive one
4:23 PM
They're not actually expensive to make, spiritual shops just like to gauge you because they're small businesses that kinda need extra money to stay afloat
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I'm pretty sure you can just make one with any string+weight combo like needle and thread
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yeah you don’t need to buy anything I described the method here https://discord.com/channels/431579755037589505/431895537978048535/796424910867791872
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Oh yeah I suppose you can just make your own I didn't think of that lmao
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how do they actually work? please make it simple i struggle reading 😭
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did you try reading it?
4:32 PM
i’m sorry but i can’t put effort in this for you
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yes but im dyslexic i can barely read it
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KiTTiKaTTy( •̀ .̫ •́ )✧ BOT 3/27/2023 4:33 PM
how do you manage to read all the guides then
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its a struggle
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It's a weight on the end of a string or chain Hold it in your dominant hand, and then put it on your non dominant hand. Ask it for a 'yes' response to get used to it. Then, lift it up. It will start to move. Ask it for a no response next. Once you know what those look like, you can ask it any yes or no question.
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KiTTiKaTTy( •̀ .̫ •́ )✧
how do you manage to read all the guides then
plus it takes me a while as i have to keep readinf over it to actually undersand it
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Kei Wendt
It's a weight on the end of a string or chain Hold it in your dominant hand, and then put it on your non dominant hand. Ask it for a 'yes' response to get used to it. Then, lift it up. It will start to move. Ask it for a no response next. Once you know what those look like, you can ask it any yes or no question.
If it circles or goes in between yes and no, it's "uncertain" or "idk"
4:35 PM
ty for simplifying it 😭
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Np, i hope it makes sense
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KiTTiKaTTy( •̀ .̫ •́ )✧ BOT 3/27/2023 4:39 PM
i wonder how much of advice people gave you here you didn’t manage to read 😅
4:40 PM
do you prefer voice chat?
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KiTTiKaTTy( •̀ .̫ •́ )✧
i wonder how much of advice people gave you here you didn’t manage to read 😅
I just read over it again and again until I understand or I pick out the most important bits
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KiTTiKaTTy( •̀ .̫ •́ )✧
do you prefer voice chat?
Idm really
4:46 PM
It would be Easier to understand tbh
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does text to speech help?
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KiTTiKaTTy( •̀ .̫ •́ )✧ BOT 3/27/2023 4:58 PM
sounds like you could use it then
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Maybe getting a screen reader would help? Idk
4:59 PM
That reads things out loud i mean
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discord has TTS built in
5:02 PM
you can get browser extensions too
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Oh that's perfect then
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Yuka
discord has TTS built in
O where do I find that?
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just click on a message and select "Speak message"
7:18 PM
O where do I find that?
@🪷 - jump
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pretty sure
Desting 😎 (Con Cat)-(おひたし、お浸し) 3/27/2023 8:42 PM
Its not you or your tulpa, its more of a choice you make. And systematically choosing its you, is choosing that your tulpa cant talk. You are not "sure that its you", you choose that its you. Unfortunately mindset issues usually dont have such easy solutions though...
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You gotta trust when valentine speaks! It mifht mot sound like her at first, but you'll be able to tell the difference soon! If you arent consciously coming up with a response, it probs wasn't you, and was valentine!
8:46 PM
I still have a similar voice to kei, but that's because i haven't practiced speaking in my own voice enough! It's hard when the brain is used to the hosts voice. But don't be surprised if it sounds like you, because you guys probably hve the same vice!
8:46 PM
Voice!
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Desting 😎 (Con Cat)-(おひたし、お浸し)
Its not you or your tulpa, its more of a choice you make. And systematically choosing its you, is choosing that your tulpa cant talk. You are not "sure that its you", you choose that its you. Unfortunately mindset issues usually dont have such easy solutions though...
so it isnt her?
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Desting 😎 (Con Cat)-(おひたし、お浸し) 3/27/2023 8:51 PM
Thats a choice you make.
8:52 PM
but how can it be a choise? it either is or isnt right?
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Desting 😎 (Con Cat)-(おひたし、お浸し) 3/27/2023 8:52 PM
At the beginning of the process, you choose: "this is me, this is my tulpa", then the behavior of your tulpa starts developing from those intances you decided it was them.
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It starts out with you choosing! Then eventually she'll start to speak clearer. But if you choose everything as 'no', she won't learn! It's sorta like an AI. It learns when you tell it what's right and what's not!
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ohh okay!
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Desting 😎 (Con Cat)-(おひたし、お浸し) 3/27/2023 8:53 PM
Well, i think you just learn to choose really easily to the point you are not aware of the choice.
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ah okay so from now on when im not sure ill just say it is her (edited)
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Maybe! I feel like my own person though but maybe this is kei still choosing?
8:54 PM
ah okay so from now on when im not sure ill just say it is hee
@🪷 - jump Good idea!
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ohh okay!
@🪷 - jump the core of tulpamancy is that expectations form your experience
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Desting 😎 (Con Cat)-(おひたし、お浸し) 3/27/2023 8:54 PM
Its a matter of interpretation.
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Eishi
Maybe! I feel like my own person though but maybe this is kei still choosing?
Desting 😎 (Con Cat)-(おひたし、お浸し) 3/27/2023 8:54 PM
Its not "kei choosing", it just gets chosen.
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